A Side of Syrup Podcast - EP 009: Taking Action to Make Life Happen with Libby Springer, Marketing Exec & Boutique Owner

Are you looking to get inspired today?

Well then, you certainly came to the right place. Meet Libby Springer - marketing executive, boutique owner, mom of three. She makes it look like a breeze. I’m not talking Instagram vs. Reality here. Libby is a prime example of someone who has spent years of her life prioritizing her time, wellness, and happiness. She’s built a life she’s incredibly proud of and one my friends, you’ll want to emulate after listening to our conversation.

What makes Libby beyond great and secretly making me want to be in her inner circle? She’s herself. Incredibly confident in who she is, what she wants, and the life she’s built for her family. It’s not just for show. Its spawned from her brilliance at tackling the seasons of her life with a plan (for her career, family and herself).

In this episode Libby and I cover important topics like taking and making time for fitness, comparison culture on social media, and how to meal plan. Sit back, take notes, and enjoy!

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Libby lives in a suburb outside of Indianapolis with her husband and three boys (ages 14, 12, and 8). After working in the corporate marketing world for 15 years (mostly in healthcare), she took a short leave while she opened her own business – a women’s boutique. With a storefront and an online store, Libby has been the owner/CEO of State of Grace Boutique for five years.

Libby has always been passionate about health and fitness, but learned a lot through trying to manage a small business through COVID, closures and a recession. She also works in healthcare marketing again, leading a great team for a large healthcare organization, and talks about the reality of balancing work, owning a business, and being a mom and wife (and trying to make time for a social life).

Things Libby loves: fitness, cooking (she’s always looking for good recipes), coffee, wine, college sports, travel, and spending time at the lake with her family.

Website: State of Grace

Instagram: @stateofgracebtq

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Full episode transcript:

Hi! My name is Shannon Pfeffer. I'm obsessed with understanding the how and the why behind feeling good and translating that knowledge into strategies that help you live better.

Each week we'll dive into conversations about food, fitness, stress, career, and family. We'll learn from each other, feel more connected, and we'll explore ways to design a life you love.

So what are you waiting for? Keep listening for tips, tricks, and fun facts about feeling good, looking good, and living better. And don't forget to bring a snack. This is the A Side of Syrup Podcast.

00:00.00

syrupcoaching

Hi guys I am thrilled to have on the podcast today Libby Springer I've known libby since high school and I have admired her ever since she is one of those people who. Takes action and steers her life in the direction where she wants it to go. She's the mom of 3 that alone is a huge job but add on that she's a marketing executive and she owns her own boutique and finds time to read and be part of book clubs with friends and. Workout every day she's created amazing systems and set up her life. So not only it runs smoothly but she makes time for herself and to achieve things that she wants for herself and her family. She's really got it down to a science and. I'm thrilled for her to talk about that morning day and and share how she does it I've already picked up a couple of tips and started implementing them in my life including meal planning for big family. Um, she's got some words of wisdom there? Um, also stay tuned to the end because. Libby's got some really great book recommendations that I've already gotten and they're like the perfect transition books from summer to fall. Um some really motivating and some you know like the trashy read under a blanket and cozy chili mate. Um.

01:28.60

syrupcoaching

So anyway I am so excited for you to learn so much from libby and I'm so glad that she was able to carve out time to be on the show. Um, just ah, grab a notebook take some notes and get acting on all the tips that libby has to share today.

00:00.00

syrupcoaching

Hi Libby I'm so good. Thank you so much for joining us on today's podcast guys I'm so thrilled we have libby springer here. She's going to drop a lot of knowledge and and sort of like helpful hints I mean I can't wait to get into her story.

00:01.80

Libby

Hi How are you.

00:19.44

syrupcoaching

but um but I libby and I went to high school together which is like eons ago at this point but I have I have followed her like a fitness journey a career journey a mom journey and so we have lots to dive into today but libby.

00:24.92

Libby

Fast.

00:38.34

syrupcoaching

And in your words like tell us who you are where you're at um and a little bit more about you.

00:42.78

Libby

Yeah, thank you? Well none of all, thank you for asking me I'm very honored to be here and you know I definitely don't consider myself an expert in really anything but I'm always happy to just share. You know what's worked for me or what I've seen work for others. Um, so yes, I'm libby and I am. In a suburb right? outside of Indianapolis Indiana um, like you said like Shannon said we went to high school together. Um, so I always say first and foremost I'm a wife and a mom of 3 boys so we're actually getting ready to go back to school my kids will be in. Oldest will be a freshman in high school. My middle will be a None grade middle schooler and my youngest will be in none grade. So lots of lots of age ah span there and I have been in corporate marketing and mostly healthcare marketing for um, almost. 20 years now which seems really crazy to say but I took a little break for a few years while I opened up my own boutique. So um, you know I've owned. It'll be 5 years of September that I've owned my boutique state of Grace. Um, and I am currently back into my ah corporate marketing position as a director of marketing communication for a large healthcare system here in Indiana.

02:01.12

syrupcoaching

Ah, how do you have time to do all this.

02:04.54

Libby

Ah, yeah, it's so funny because I get that question a lot and I always say well number one I feel like it's just it has a lot to with personality like I'm just somebody who's always loved working and I think that because I love the jobs ah quote that I have.

02:07.82

syrupcoaching

Um.

02:23.45

Libby

Um, it's just easier for me naturally to balance that um I also one thing I always say is you know when somebody saying how do you do that like well that's just the stage of life I'm at right now. It's the chapter I'm in you know I think a lot of times especially in today's world with social media. You know it's so easy to see like. Other what others are doing and you know we post a highlight reel I I use mine mostly for a highlight reel Um and it's really easy to compare herself and say oh my gosh? Well she's doing that or he's doing that and I I don't feel like I'm measuring up like geez I'm not doing enough but it's it's the stage of life I'm at you know i've. If you rewind time to ten years ago I mean I had just put my notice and at work saying I wanted to go down to part time I had two kids I didn't have my none son yet and I just think that you know we all as you evolve.

03:06.57

syrupcoaching

Okay.

03:11.85

Libby

During your life like you're in different chapters and so it's never good to compare I always say don't compare your chapter to someone else's chapter like this is the stage of life I'm in because my kids are older and more self-sufficient and my husband works from home too. 100% of the time so we can easily juggle this together.

03:26.14

syrupcoaching

Hi.

03:28.80

Libby

Um, but you know it would be a different story. It was even a different story five years ago when I went to open the boutique I knew that I could not balance um, having a full time job and doing opening up a brand new boutique at the same time.

03:40.25

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so are you still full time at the marketing role and as a boutique owner. Yeah.

03:44.11

Libby

Mean? yes, so I'm full time in the marketinging roll and so I will say you know having been open almost five years at the boutique. There are None store managers so they run the day-to-day operations I do a lot of the behind the scenes you know, ownership stuff the financials. Porting things like that. Um you know I obviously help with the marketing also for it. But there's a lot that I've been able to take off my plate and because I have None people who I trust with everything you know to to run those day-to-day operations. So you know that took time to build. And it wasn't until I was at that point that I said okay now I'm ready to go back into my corporate career and and it was nice because I could kind of use that time to be you know? Ah you know very selfish and looking at only things that I really wanted to do that would work with my schedule I needed flexibility.

04:36.45

syrupcoaching

Right.

04:38.41

Libby

Um, I wanted to be you know at an organization that I I really loved and believed in and so that I waited until the right opportunity came along.

04:44.74

syrupcoaching

Yeah that's incredible that's incredible I want to jump back to a point you were talking about because I actually listened I was driving with my son yesterday and listened to a podcast and it it was like finishing up and then it rolled into the next one. So I had no idea what episode was coming next. And it was about someone who wrote a book about personal finance and the comparison culture and I can't recall the title of the book. But it was all about like don't look at Instagram at someone who's renovated their kitchen and it's beautiful and and nice and think like. Oh they haven't made you know she's like the backstory and maybe they do maybe maybe they've saved up and and and they did it and they're proud of it. But maybe they had to take out a second mortgage and maybe they paid further in their credit card but they just felt like they had to keep up or.

05:26.34

Libby

Um, the banking urban.

05:42.92

syrupcoaching

Were saying same thing with vacations like they had to check in at this certain hotel but they could only afford something else. You know she she just kept bringing up this point of like stop looking at everybody else. Outwardly start looking in the mirror and live your life.

05:58.23

Libby

Oh absolutely I mean I think we can all say too from our own personal experiences I mean the times that I've gone through really hard things very rarely do I post and and everyone's different right? I realize some people are more comfortable posting private things I tend to be a little bit more private.

06:13.82

syrupcoaching

Next.

06:15.96

Libby

Um, so I'm not sharing everything and um, social media has yes, become this comparison. It's this you know I've always said I love I feel you can use social media and in a positive way. It's what you make of it but over the I think especially over the last couple years I just feel like it's it's started trending toward this. Negative and and we really have to remember you know what we're seeing is just a small snippet of everybody's lives and it's never a good tool to use for comparison. It's funny that you mention that because there is actually an influencer I follow who. Really picky about influencers that I follow in the none place but this influencer I mean she has a huge following I think it's over None followers and she is very true to herself. But what was so interesting is and I didn't know this because I didn't follow her years and years ago, but she just posted the other day about how.

06:53.32

syrupcoaching

You love.

07:06.45

Libby

When she first started she grew the biggest time of her growth was when her husband had lost his job so they had moved in with her parents for a little bit and then found a rental that they were renting for a while he was finally a few months later able to go back I Guess to the same position. But.

07:10.94

syrupcoaching

A. Yeah, yeah.

07:24.33

Libby

During that time. That's when um, they were she and her daughter were doing these like twinning looks and that's how she sort of took off but the funny part is she said you know it was the bathroom where they would always do their pictures was a carpeted bathroom. She did not realize that that was even like she said so many people would messenger be like is that.

07:30.70

syrupcoaching

I'm and it move in.

07:34.90

syrupcoaching

Okay.

07:44.32

Libby

Her bit in your bathroom and like really just like you know they were surprised by it and she said but this just goes to show because of course now she she lives in a beautiful big house. She goes it doesn't matter. You don't have to have a big house to be successful. You don't have to have you know this perfectly staged house to you know, be ah, be an influencer or to post.

07:47.50

syrupcoaching

Number.

08:03.49

Libby

Pictures on Instagram like I had my biggest growth period when I was just you know, having fun with my daughter we were shooting pictures on a carpeted bathroom floor so goes right along with that message.

08:11.55

syrupcoaching

Yeah, totally and there's like the simplicity of life that sort of gets forgotten. Um, but do you guys I mean speaking of like owning a fashion boutique like do you? How do you guys? do.

08:20.72

Libby

F.

08:29.89

syrupcoaching

Do marketing that like sort of feels good and you're not kind of getting in that comparison trap.

08:33.49

Libby

You know so I will say when when I open the boutique One of the biggest reasons. Well there are a couple of big reasons number one was um I just felt like for me personally at that time in my life I Love shopping local but a lot of the local boutiques either felt like they were. For women way younger than me or for women way older than me I felt like I just couldn't didn't find that one boutique and so that was really my my goal is like I know who I'm trying to target here I'm trying to target you know similar demographics when it comes to you know where you live and.

08:59.50

syrupcoaching

Are.

09:06.87

Libby

Um, you know what kind of style is you like kind of classic. But maybe you're willing to to try a few trendier styles. Um, so that's really you know where I went with it and and 1 of the goals. The other goal being that I just wanted to be able to like be a bigger part of the community and like bring women together in a really positive way. But we really focus on you know it comes to marketing for the boutique not being part of like every trend So We we don't do a whole lot with influencers to be honest because I ran the numbers for a small business like ours like it just doesn't typically speaking and would say never.

09:31.89

syrupcoaching

Um. Are.

09:41.76

Libby

Typically speaking it doesn't pay off like when you actually sit down and run the numbers of the ah roi on what you would pay someone right and and how many can you actually sell and and will these customers become customers. You know, long-term customers not just make this one off purchase I don't care about how many followers we have I care about how many.

09:46.34

syrupcoaching

Um, look.

10:00.84

Libby

Followers equate to sales. Um, so that's 1 thing we've always been really big on is not just taking part in every trend or you know every marketing trend Tiktok I mean I know there's a lot of boutiques that have like you know, blown up on Tiktok and and and.

10:07.52

syrupcoaching

Okay.

10:15.37

Libby

Had a ton of followers that's not where the majority of our target market is so we're not going to be on tik dock. It just doesn't make sense. Um, you know we've we've also been kind of fighting this whole reels trend right? like every like Instagram's trying to really encourage those real sense like but it has to feel natural too.

10:19.23

syrupcoaching

E.

10:31.83

syrupcoaching

Um, you.

10:33.70

Libby

And I realized like trying something new isn't going to feel natural at none but we do it in a way that feels natural for us. So um, you know it's not natural for us to get on camera and dance. But it is natural that we love showing different ways to wear styles and one of our. Things we've done from day one before reals where even a thing is showed like 3 ways to wear it and you take None piece like a blazer or skirt and show like 3 or 4 ways that you can wear that so that's really where we're focused is like bringing bringing value I guess to um to customers not just saying hey you really need this like.

11:01.58

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

11:08.61

Libby

Really cute trendy top that is now the you know the most current trend. It's like no we want to bring value and show you how you can wear something or how you compare this with things you already have.

11:16.21

syrupcoaching

Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, and I think that that speaks to sort of like building that kit that community you were talking about too because it's like it's great to have like feet in the door but are they your customer are they going to keep coming back. Are they.

11:22.94

Libby

Ah, yes.

11:36.21

syrupcoaching

You know going to really resonate with with who you are I think a couple of months ago I was like planning a trip to vegas with my husband I'm like I'm going to go to urban outfitters and I'm Goingnna get something really cute I walked in and a I was like a little horrified by like the extreme ninety stuff.

11:52.22

Libby

Ah, but.

11:55.99

syrupcoaching

Um, and B I like grabbed a couple dresses i' like whatever you know I'm going to try on some things like you know it's not that expensive I'll just you know, get this like short mini dress that I probably had in high school and and I like looked in the mirror and I'm like I can't I can't do this like I have aged out of this and.

12:13.31

Libby

Left.

12:15.97

syrupcoaching

You know I don't follow them on any platform and the people I see wearing it are so much younger and I'm like okay all right I'm going to walk down the street to Madewell and that feels a little bit more um where my life stage is at so it's just so interesting to see of like you know for a long time. We had all these. Choices of where to shop and it felt overwhelming but now I feel you know smart marketers like you were like this is my niche and this is my zone and this is what this is where I'm playing in and my audience will will love it and I will get those like long-term shoppers by just staying true to who I am.

12:52.27

Libby

Right? You can't be everything to everyone right? and and I think when we first opened we were try a little bit that way just because we didn't know you know we were we we wanted customers come in tell us like.

13:04.99

syrupcoaching

Night.

13:05.65

Libby

Show us what you want right? What do you like what we have and we're going to gear more toward that way. But at the beginning you kind of do try to serve everyone and it's just not possible to sustain long term if that if you're trying to be everything to everyone.

13:12.78

syrupcoaching

Okay.

13:17.86

Libby

Um, and you know we're real big. The thing I love hearing is like I'll pop into the store once or twice a week just to check on things and I love coming in when you know like the managers are in the store typically like majority of the days and I'll hear them working with a customer and and you know that customer will try something on and she's like well I Just don't know I'm not sure how.

13:21.75

syrupcoaching

Again.

13:37.80

Libby

And after a few minutes of really reading. You know their body language and listening to them. You know our our our managers will say well you know what? if you're not feeling confident in this or at least confident enough to try it like.

13:46.98

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

13:50.92

Libby

That's going to show through right? So you're not going to enjoy wearing this. It's not about you know age. It's like I'll never say oh you shouldn't wear something because of your age but it's more about if you're not feeling like you in this if you're just feeling really uncomfortable. Let's not get it like let's try something different and so I love hearing that because it's not about the sale making the cell it's about.

13:56.83

syrupcoaching

The. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly because that confidence is going to is going to shine through and.

14:10.26

Libby

Making sure when they walk out that door. They feel good and whatever they have.

14:18.82

syrupcoaching

Then it leads to more like word of mouth too. Where'd you get that you look great. You look amazing. Um, yeah, that's great. So I have another question about community because I think it's often overlooked and wellness as a whole of how important it is to like surround yourself with good people.

14:21.20

Libby

Nope go.

14:37.95

syrupcoaching

Both in the workplace and in your personal life and and what you're building with your business like can you talk a little bit about the communities that you you have in your life.

14:45.88

Libby

Yes, so that's such a great point I don't know if you're ah a big reader but I have read a few Brene brown books and she's one of my favorite authors. She talks a lot about just how we were really made to to you know, be part of a community.

15:02.54

syrupcoaching

Um, and.

15:04.47

Libby

Um, it doesn't mean you have to be friends with everyone you meet but it you know or or it doesn't mean you even have to be an outgoing person. It's just we're we're men and I think we are wired to to need None another? Um, so you know it's funny because in the past couple years. Obviously it it was it was It's been a totally different ballgame. You know, owning a store pre covid I mean we were you know just in our height and had opened a second location five months before the pandemic hit so everything changed after covid I mean and it was incredibly stressful. 2020 was one of the most stressful years I've ever had. But I will say like. It would have been really easy for me to give up because truly there were some days I'm like is this stress even worth it anymore like I don't know you know I couldn't really say that I was enjoying it at that point in time but what kept me going was the community. What kept me going is you know, not just like friends I've made. Um, but.

15:45.17

syrupcoaching

Name. And her.

16:00.45

Libby

Seeing the friendships that have formed with women who have worked in the store becoming friends with each other women. Um, you know that are in that work in the store becoming friends with our customers I mean it's just it's such a great community and it truly does uplift everyone and that's so None thing I kept saying is. You know it uplifted me during a time that I really needed it to to keep going forward with it. So um, you know we love the fact that it's kind of like I compared to like a hairstylist like you go to get your hair done and you know you just canine in your hairstylist. There's something about sitting in that chair and you start talking and telling your personal things.

16:19.29

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

16:36.90

Libby

And that's how women feel when they come in the store and it's just so fantastic to see that to see that they have that kind of trust with us. So um, you know I Definitely think we we live our mission out every single day.

16:48.22

syrupcoaching

That's amazing that's amazing I was I was talking to a friend recently of of this There's like so many studies of the blue zones of the world and these communities that were like oh it's you know? um. And I land off the coast of Japan and they have a certain fish or certain type of potato that only grows there and for so long they thought this is what is dramatically increasing their lifespan like most of the population. There's like 1 in italy 1 in Japan and None somewhere else like everyone lives to over None everyone and what they have now discovered is like it's not about the food at all I mean yeah, part of it. Um, but it's about the community everyone sits down for meals together. Everyone knows each other's kids names like it really feels like everyone's looking out for each other.

17:20.69

Libby

That's amazing. Well.

17:38.51

syrupcoaching

And that is the piece that is both keeping their lifespan long and like their brain health really with it because these hundred year old men and women like can do crossword puzzles they can care for the the kids like they they are still cooking and moving around like very different than what we have going on in the us at that age. Um.

17:53.80

Libby

Yes.

17:57.62

syrupcoaching

But it's just so interesting that these studies about community and friendship and like having those deep connections are really you know what's what's keeping us healthy.

18:06.88

Libby

Yeah I don't doubt that at all, you know it's my so we live where we live is about None away from you know where I grew up and went to school and so both my parents and my husband's parents. Don't live here. They live about None away um

18:15.60

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

18:24.53

Libby

You know my brother does live here which is nice so we have some family here but really when our kids were little I mean we had no one no family to turn to to say hey can can you watch It was no, we needed to go out and find our in-home daycare that we Loved. Um. And we needed to find a preschool that we loved and both our in-home day care provider and our preschool became like family to us. We found friends who just like I had a friend who I met through the preschool who offered because I was going to have to pay for my kids to go to the before school program for school.

18:46.12

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

18:55.51

syrupcoaching

My.

18:58.42

Libby

Because I I couldn't be here to get them on the bus at that point of time my life when I was working I had to leave before the bus came so my husband was always gone early in the mornings for work so she offered to put you know to up just bring bring bring him here and I'll get him on the bus with one of his buddies from preschool. It's like.

19:13.85

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah.

19:15.87

Libby

That is so kind of you and we've become incredibly close and just as years have gone. It's like you know I've we've made friends who have become like family to us that are you know, parents of our our kids friends and they are our village and I don't know what we would have done without them this you know it's It's been. Absolutely life changing to to find those types of people. Um and and to know that you have someone you can count on and and it is. It's like we we look to each other for advice and we know that we can count each other when our kids are at each. Each person's house. Um,, there's no worries and and it does it does a lot for for us. It does a lot for the community to have people like that.

19:57.00

syrupcoaching

Totally and and your kids too They probably are so much more trusting of so many other people and get those different life experiences and it's amazing I I think I think that's one piece that I do miss from back home of like you know my husband and I.

20:05.40

Libby

Enough.

20:16.49

syrupcoaching

Are not from Los Angeles ah and he's from New York so he's been further away and when family comes in. It's sort of like the honeymoon period where it's like oh let's play with the kids. Let's give everybody loaded up with sugar like let's not sleep. Cool. That's what grandparents are supposed to do that's what you know Anns and uncles are supposed to do. Um, but it's not the same as being to like you know phone a friend but I think we actually moved in March of 2020 outside of west hollywood where we was like insane and crazy to the valley and it's been the best move. However, like for None ars like no one left their houses. So I feel like we're coming out of it and now with kids back in school and and all of that like it's like finally like I feel like I know the neighbors and can make a phone call and you know someone would be here in a heartbeat and vice versa. And that feeling you know is amazing and I know I mean my kids are much younger than yours but like you know as they progress through school and you're building that community through school like you know you're going to find those people who've got your back all the time know. Yeah, once you have that anything feels like home.

21:27.26

Libby

Yep, Absolutely exactly exactly I mean we're at a point now where it's like this is I mean for our kids like this is their home. You know we've we've contemplated every now and then like oh you know moving not far away but like.

21:32.33

syrupcoaching

Um.

21:38.89

syrupcoaching

This.

21:44.90

Libby

Somewhere else I if we change school districts like our kids would be so upset and and I really like sat down but I'm like oh my gosh like we'd be leaving our whole village like that that would be really hard for us as parents to do.

21:47.25

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

21:56.71

syrupcoaching

Oh totally, totally. Yeah, it's it's nice to like leave it for a vacation for a little bit but you know you you need that day to day. Yeah, so we were talked a little bit about like how 2020 was so stressful for you.

22:04.82

Libby

Yes.

22:13.67

syrupcoaching

Like 2021 2022 like coming out of it like how did you? How did you heal? How did you you know get the smile and like life back in your face I mean you know I can't imagine owning. Multiple stores at the the time of all that and you know what you had to go through.

22:31.53

Libby

Yeah, you know? So oh so I feel like I could like literally go on for the whole rest of this session about this so I'm going to try to shorten it as much as I can um yeah, None was really hard I will say so it's funny because before that I was definitely in our marriage the more layback one.

22:36.84

syrupcoaching

Ah.

22:49.10

syrupcoaching

Me yeah.

22:50.70

Libby

Like I was like ah my husband worries enough for the both of us and I feel like there was like a role reversal not that he wasn't stressed at all during 2020 but there was definitely a role reversal where I and I would say it's it's still there like I am definitely more stressed of a person now than I was.

23:09.24

syrupcoaching

Okay.

23:09.89

Libby

Prior to covid. That being said I mean you know 2020 came long. We're all second side I I was definitely drinking more I think for many of us we did drink more and I think what I found is come 2021 I was like okay I need to make a change here and it wasn't just because you know i.

23:17.76

syrupcoaching

Oh yeah.

23:29.56

Libby

You know, wanted to lose weight or and it was like no I just an overall like literally need to overhaul my health right now and I wasn't I mean I was still exercising in 2020 thank goodness thank goodness we had a ah ah basement gym because I think that was my saving grace. So for me exercise has always been about mental health. Um.

23:33.30

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah.

23:42.62

syrupcoaching

I.

23:48.82

Libby

You know I like exercising is not hard for me to like I'm very self-motivated to exercise nutrition. Um I'm very knowledgeable but I definitely have a sweet tooth and have my weaknesses so I you know I know the importance of eating healthy and I do everything I can to to help our family healthy. Um. But that probably declined in 20 or twenty. So come 2021 I was like okay where where I'm I'm not drinking during the week I am because I'm a wine lover but you know it's very easy to let that wine glass become too and quite frankly, it just made me feel groggy in the mornings. Um.

24:07.19

syrupcoaching

Course.

24:12.74

syrupcoaching

Okay.

24:19.93

syrupcoaching

May.

24:26.15

Libby

So I was like you know, cutting out alcohol during the week and then I was like okay um I went back to the chiropractor I felt like that was really important that was something I had done years ago and I just went the chiropractor I see is vary into kind of like holistic health overall so I knew they would be doing more than just adjustments. Um.

24:38.60

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, right.

24:45.52

Libby

I looked at like ah a Macros plan to really help better understand like what my body needed for fuel. Um, found that I was way under eating on protein. Um, so I changed up some things there I incorporated yoga into my exercise so I was never a yoga fan. Um.

24:51.70

syrupcoaching

Um.

24:59.26

syrupcoaching

Um, me.

25:05.48

Libby

I just was just bored me I tried multiple like different types of yoga classes I think what I found was my sweet spot is peloton so I have a peloton bike I started doing 20 or 30 minute yoga classes and finding that when I keep it to that twenty thirty minutes I actually really enjoy it and like it.

25:14.12

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah. Right.

25:24.20

Libby

So I started incorporating that with the goal of 2021 to do a None yoga classes for that year and I was this close to getting it. Only reason I didnt was because I got really sick at the end of 2021 with bronchitis for like two months I had bronchitis. Um.

25:30.36

syrupcoaching

Um, you know on.

25:40.13

Libby

And had it not been for that I would have hit the 100 that year but thing was at like 95 ah but you know I really was just about I also ended up toward the end of 2021 went to a hormone specialist. Um.

25:44.23

syrupcoaching

I was insane. Got really close.

25:56.91

Libby

They were just like I could tell something was off and I think through all that year of just making some of those changes slowly but surely what I found was like the stress stress um affects our body so much more than what we realize so much more so and and I'm somebody who I used to teach fitness classes I had a you know.

26:09.37

syrupcoaching

Ah.

26:16.68

Libby

Ah, fitness trainer certification I had my personal trainer certification I'm somebody who's knowledgeable on fitness nutrition but like even I did not realize the way stress can impact you I mean I just was um like I look back at pictures you know from 2020

26:20.49

syrupcoaching

Here.

26:35.14

Libby

Even the beginning 2021. It's just so much inflammation. You know it's not about like weight. It's like just my body was just reacting so you know just learning coping mechanisms for that stress for me, it's a combination of eating healthy of exercising but not. Overexercising and I think that's something else I learned in the last couple years is you know back in the day like I'm a big lover of running and hit style workouts. You know interval training and what I found is like. It's okay, you can do those sometimes but you need to incorporate some of these exercises that are really more about it's easier on your body but it's more about your mind. So for me, that's what yoga did um so I yeah yeah.

27:14.46

syrupcoaching

Yeah, but that's the hard I don't mean to cut you off, but my dad always said growing up like it's not a workout until you sweat and so it'd be like jump on the bike go for a run like.

27:24.18

Libby

This not.

27:30.78

syrupcoaching

That'd be the start of a workout and then anything else would be secondary but me too it. It took me so long to shift that brain and be like you got to slow down. You got to slow down and those workouts are just as Ben as official as the others. Yeah.

27:37.91

Libby

Yeah, yeah, oh absolutely and sometimes I but I feel like um, you know sometimes like the the it's harder almost um, especially when you're not used to it I mean my balance you know was so I've come a long way.

27:52.76

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

27:54.68

Libby

I still can't even come close to doing some of these really cool yoga moves like I have goals one day one day I'll learn to do them. But you know, um, the other thing I will say is just like what you surround yourself with and I actually just heard this quote the other day and I don't remember what the exact quote was but it was talking about how your overall wellness isn't just what you. Consume eat. You know the things you eat and put inside your body It's also what you consume around you who do you surround yourself with what are you giving your attention and energy to I will be honest like we don't turn on the news in our house ever. Um.

28:19.26

syrupcoaching

9

28:28.10

Libby

And 2020 when we were shut down for two months I had the news on every day because I was listening to these conferences because I wanted to know like when are we opening back up like you know as a business owner I'm like stressed out I'm like what do I need a plan for how much longer is this going to be are they going to say how much longer it's going to be um and I i.

28:34.63

syrupcoaching

Um, me me.

28:42.53

syrupcoaching

Me.

28:47.43

Libby

Have no doubt that that affected my mental health during that period time so we just we don't turn the news because it's mostly negative. Um, you know it's not that we're burying our heads in the sand and not knowing what's going on in the world. Obviously we we find our ways to find out. But um, there's just you know it is. It's about everything that you consume.

28:56.20

syrupcoaching

Um, me.

29:06.30

Libby

You know, visually everything you listen to um and I always say like the things that bring you joy make sure you're finding time to fit those and I love reading I actually enjoy cooking. Um I despise cleaning So it's like figure out the things you can outsource.

29:13.64

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

29:21.63

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah.

29:24.70

Libby

You don't like doing but do the things you to make time for the things you enjoy because you know I Love cooking dinner. Um I love reading books and so I you know I tried to end most of my days before I go to bed of reading a book at night you know before I shut the lights off.

29:37.10

syrupcoaching

Yeah I think the prioritization of everything is so important because you know a lot of the clients that I work with are battling like not major things like I'm not working with people who have serious medical conditions. They should be working you know with a medical team for that. But. But you're trying to balance sugar cravings and someone's having a really really hard time with that. You know, ah you can't just take away sugar and expect that craving to go Away. You know it's It's sort of I mean sugar you get addicted to it and you approach it like. Like an addict of like you have to slowly peel back but introduce something else like you know you can't just cut a habit and you know it's also like taking action and I think like you are definitely a person who takes action to make change in their lives. But a lot of people need you know help and steps to do that because it's easy to say I want to do this but it's so hard to actually do it.

30:41.32

Libby

Yeah, absolutely um, you know I will say too that I've always been you you when you when you you surround yourself with people right? So I've always been a part of the fitness community.

30:54.85

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

30:56.98

Libby

So you forget sometimes until you can take a step back that like not everybody has that same knowledge right? like like we we may assume like we went to a certain school and we got this certain education and you know we we know how to do this and oh I've been a part of the fitness community. So I've received tips and heard things here and there.

31:01.10

syrupcoaching

Um, written.

31:15.82

Libby

But not everybody has and so it's really easy to forget sometimes that like yes, so and and there are people who are motivated by different things. You know I have friends who are like oh my gosh I could never make myself go down into my own basement and and do a workout almost daily like how do you do? I'm like that's just me but I have friends who are like. Oh I'm motivated by group Fitness Classes. So I'm going to pay right for that membership because I know that's going to make me go to be around people and because I'm paying for the service right? like I'm not going to let it go to waste so everyone is different in what works for them. But like I think you said something really important is prioritizing it right? like.

31:40.70

syrupcoaching

Okay.

31:51.20

syrupcoaching

Okay.

31:54.22

Libby

And I will say taking it 1 step further not only prioritizing it and putting this on your calendar and and you know it's really easy for me I'm an early workout person I have to get it done in the morning because between work and my kids like the rest of my day well into the evening is pretty much taken up right? It's busy. So if I don't get it done in the morning.

32:02.41

syrupcoaching

Huh.

32:07.63

syrupcoaching

Um, and yeah.

32:12.65

Libby

I'm likely not going to get it done and it's really easy for me to some days to just want to turn over and hit that snooze and go back to sleep and get an extra half hour to an hour in but prioritizing it. You know helps to make sure that you know I am like I know I'm going to feel so much better. But the 1 thing I will say is like.

32:23.31

syrupcoaching

Um. Um, yeah.

32:31.97

Libby

You can't expect to feel better and you can't expect those changes like right off the bat I think that's the other thing is we're so ingrained as a society that we expect immediate results and immediate you know gratification and it just doesn't happen like that whether your goal is just to you know. Feel better and have more energy that was a huge goal of mine the past year and a half has been I need to get my energy back. But whether it's you know, feeling better getting more energy losing weight building muscle like that comes over time I mean I didn't and so when was it. It was the beginning what or no, it's. About a year and three months ago I didn't in bodyd scan and what that does is it tells you like it's not just about weight. It tells you like what's your body fat percentage not the bmi because that's a really outdated tool that they use to to do your bmi but body fat percentage. How much muscle mass. Do you have how much fat you know.

33:19.21

syrupcoaching

Yeah. Me and.

33:27.40

Libby

And it really helps you to determine. Okay like where like it's not just hey lose £10 it's like okay you could stand to lose £5 of fat but gain £5 of muscle or you know it gives those types much more in depth. Yes, um, and so over the course of a year and three months I mean I have.

33:36.36

syrupcoaching

Um, and the sea Coach beach. Yeah.

33:46.50

Libby

I have seen such great results like in doing because I just did another inbody scan but that's been a year and three months a year and three months my body composition has changed but that's a very you know I think most people just aren't willing to wait that long to see those types of results right? so.

33:51.56

syrupcoaching

Yes.

34:02.52

syrupcoaching

Me.

34:05.15

Libby

That's the other thing to recognize is like this really has to be something you're dedicated to it's a lifestyle like do you want to be healthy. Do you want to feel good and whether it's mentally physically a combination of it like these changes have to have to happen over ah the course of a long period of time right? so. If if we're gonna cut out news like we're cutting out news. It's not just gonna be for a three month period and then start start watching it again like it's everything everything just has to be a priority and it has to be long term which is why bad diets don't work right.

34:26.80

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah. Totally and they don't work. They don't work but our culture is sort of set up to to have that like fast foods easier than cooking and years ago I worked on this client I can't say the name but they were looking for a name.

34:45.27

Libby

Nope.

34:51.33

syrupcoaching

And it's a drive through fast food chain and they were doing a double driveth through and people could preorder their food and then I'm not kidding they could roll down the passenger side window and then the team would just throw in the food and we. Kiddingly called it throw and go because so much of the country is like that and they're like just give it to me. It's easy I Need this quick fix and but you know like you're saying especially with like gaining muscle that takes.

35:15.15

Libby

Yeah, and yeah.

35:24.81

syrupcoaching

Everyday dedication with fitness with food with carving out the time to do that to see results and I don't think a lot of people want to wait for that and it's so sad because our health is so much more important than what someone would post on their Instagram story. You know like.

35:39.75

Libby

Oh.

35:43.70

syrupcoaching

This flash in the Pan Instant gratification culture is so tough when our health is actually going to keep us around so much longer for ourselves for our partners for our kids you know, whatever the the home makeup is at home. Um, but it's so good to hear you reinforce if like it takes.

36:00.60

Libby

Yeah, and you may not like it at None right? like like you brought up you cutting out sugar like that's hard to do at first I mean your cravings aren't going to magically go away.

36:01.40

syrupcoaching

Work and do the work and you can get to where you want to go.

36:09.83

syrupcoaching

Yeah, so hard. Okay.

36:14.87

Libby

So you're gonna have it's just like if if somebody's told like okay, you really just need to you're consuming too many calories and you need to consume less well like you're gonna feel really hungry. Probably the first week or 2 that you're you're following this nutrition plan. You're going to have those sugar cravings the first week or 2 that you cut it out.

36:19.98

syrupcoaching

Me.

36:30.71

Libby

But the longer you stick with it the more natural it feels and then pretty soon you you don't feel hungry and pretty soon you don't have a strong of sugar cravings. But you have to get over that hump first. So.

36:40.59

syrupcoaching

You have to it's like doing the whole 30 It's like you do it None This first two weeks are just awful and then you like terrible person and you're like I need this I need this I need this then all of a sudden you feel like elated and you're like why would I ever go back to.

36:44.51

Libby

Yes.

36:54.10

Libby

Then. Yeah.

37:00.46

syrupcoaching

Eating this way or you know being this way. Um, but yeah, it's it takes work and time and sorry there's pool guy right? Ah oh our? um our pool guy just arrived. So if you hear some noise.

37:10.47

Libby

It's It's funny because oh sorry I think you cut out there. Ah no, um so as in say it's funny nut. So nutrition wise you know I'm ah.

37:18.65

syrupcoaching

Ah, that's it. She.

37:25.13

syrupcoaching

Um, me.

37:27.66

Libby

Big believer and I'm sure probably has to do with just I have 3 boys who eat us out of house and home like I have to be somewhat structured when it comes to what we're spending our grocery money on because I'm like oh my gosh otherwise I would could spend. Even more money than the ridiculous amount that we already spend and we're not big on like we we may on the weekends like order out or something or go out to eat but like one night but for the most part we cook at home we have meal you know dinners together at home. Um, but I will say that the.

37:46.47

syrupcoaching

E.

37:58.40

Libby

Um, you know I tell my friends and they they all know this about me like I schedule our dinner. So like I know what we're gonna what I'm going to make for dinner for the whole week I have a little menu board on our refrigerator. So the kids know what we're gonna have each night and then when I do my grocery shopping typically I'm ordering it and going and picking it up and doing like the click list. Um.

38:04.59

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

38:15.67

syrupcoaching

Nick.

38:18.26

Libby

But that's how I shop I make my ingredient list based my shopping list based on like okay I need these ingredients for these recipes sometimes I might even like Premake my lunches or breakfast so that it's a quick grab and go for my you know, really busy days. Um I make sure you know I have all the kids' lunch stuff and.

38:27.75

syrupcoaching

Um, okay.

38:37.85

Libby

You know my friends are like some of my friends are like I don't know how you can do that like how you are able to like plan that I'm like I don't know how people don't do it because like no like if I didn't do it I would just like go grocery shop and be like I don't know I'll buy some chicken I'll buy some bananas I'll buy in like then I got home and I would have spent you know $300 and not had.

38:49.48

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, yeah.

38:57.76

Libby

Anything to actually make a dinner not that it needs to be anything you know complicated. But for me I'm like it. It makes me feel better knowing that I have like a plan of action and so you know when people talk about like meal prep I like it's really just me saying.

38:57.97

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

39:13.88

Libby

Okay I want to make sure I'm not overspending for groceries and that I know what I what I want to get and it doesn't take time to basically say okay, 5 or 6 nights of dinner here's what we're doing um I need to make sure I have everything you know for those dinners and then everything else is just kind of like okay the general like what do we need for breakfast and lunch and um.

39:14.49

syrupcoaching

For me.

39:21.98

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

39:27.51

syrupcoaching

E.

39:32.99

Libby

But yeah, it's a lot of I'm amazed at the number friends I have who have large families like lots of kids and they they are able to just walk into the grocery store and do I'm like that's I can't do that. Yes.

39:35.99

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

39:42.69

syrupcoaching

You know and it feels like they'd have to go multiple times a week like I mean I think we don't we do a lot of meal prep on Sundays and then I try to try to freeze often like one night a week we have to do takeout because.

40:01.48

Libby

Well.

40:02.50

syrupcoaching

We don't have time we run out of time in the day but it's so helpful to have things that are cut up that are prepared. You can grab and go you can kind of I call them like boosts and combos like here's a couple of things that are like super healthy. You can add to this and here's some couple combinations at work and like everyone.

40:19.82

Libby

Yep.

40:21.54

syrupcoaching

Has everything they need and you know even if I can't be there to cook dinner or like there is dinner there and everyone can figure it out. Um, but it's so hard to even think about doing that without a plan otherwise like it's just like on the phone like oh postmates. Oh.

40:26.94

Libby

No no.

40:40.58

syrupcoaching

This oh this and like that becomes a None times more expensive than actually meal planning.

40:43.62

Libby

Yes, oh yeah I like dread like it's so fun when we're on vacation and we like go out to dinner as a family but like oh my god we's been so it's so expensive for a family of 5 especially with 3 growing boys to to eat out so I will say finances. Definitely you know, help me.

40:49.64

syrupcoaching

Um, okay.

40:55.46

syrupcoaching

Um, me.

41:02.89

Libby

Stay motivated with planning our our menu for the week. Yes, but.

41:05.12

syrupcoaching

Totally your present is my future So I am learning very quickly. How how much boise I mean I I work out I eat a lot. Ah, but even my youngest son the amount that kid can put down I'm like. My gosh when you are in high school I'm not sure what we're going to do I'm not sure.

41:26.63

Libby

Oh yeah I remember when my oldest was one and I think I mean we would have family members just watch him in amazement when I would make homemade pancakes because he would eat probably 5 of them at 1 year old in 1 sitting and they're like I cannot believe he's eating that that many so.

41:45.60

syrupcoaching

Yeah, ah so you mentioned books What? what? what's on your bedside table like anything you're reading now that you're like everyone should be reading this or anything you've read in the you know past couple months.

41:46.60

Libby

Yes.

41:58.12

Libby

Oh yes, like I feel like so I on my Instagram I have like um on my highlights I have a book highlight and then I had to start a new one because they were just it got so long with so many highlights that so then I have a books 2022 highlight so this year I'm not doing as good as i.

42:08.30

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

42:16.30

Libby

As I did last year last year I read like 20 something books which is pretty good this year I think I'm on like book None or 8 um I do a combination really and I usually have None books going at once? Um, because one will be more like I don't. And say motivational but you know nonfiction I typically read a nonfiction in a fiction. So the fiction's like more fun more you know, lighthearted um, kind of like watching like your favorite trashy Tv show. You know so and I actually just started so our state of grace boutique. Um.

42:40.90

syrupcoaching

Me.

42:47.97

syrupcoaching

Me.

42:48.23

Libby

We had a couple models and our 2 photographers who wanted to start a book club. So it's myself and 1 of our managers and then our 2 photographers and 1 of our models. We just decide each month. What book we want to read and it's ah typically an easy read like fiction book and then we it just gives us an excuse to go out one night a month.

42:59.50

syrupcoaching

Um.

43:07.19

Libby

Talk about it. You know over drinks and appetizers. So that's been really fun. We just started doing that. Um I will say I'm a big fan when it comes to fiction of Elin Hildebrand books so if you're a fiction lover those are some of my favorite like just fun novels. She also does like a.

43:15.23

syrupcoaching

Um.

43:23.80

Libby

Has a couple of like series and like if you start reading a lot of her books. You'll realize like some of the same characters are in different books but just in a different way like sometimes they'll be the feature character and then other times they'll just kind of be in the background of a different book. So um I like her books from a nonfiction.

43:34.49

syrupcoaching

Okay, love that me.

43:40.92

Libby

I would say like I said earlier Rene Brown books I think are really interesting. She puts a lot of data and research behind her books. Um, so I don't feel like it's necessarily anything new that people don't know or haven't heard but there's just more like research around it more fact driven.

43:56.28

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

44:00.30

Libby

Um, one um I also love Bob Gough books so I don't know if you're familiar with him but he's like he he writes that he's it comes from more of like a place a fit of strong faith and you know I won't say religion because he's not I don't wouldn't necessarily call him someone who's religious but you know he really just preaches kindness.

44:04.60

syrupcoaching

No I'm not tell me more about him. Um, yeah.

44:20.15

Libby

And um, living a world you know living a life that is all about being kind and loving others and I just think it's so practical what he says and it makes you kind of like.

44:30.70

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

44:34.30

Libby

Take a step back and and think about just your actions toward others and especially those who believe differently than you which I think a lot of us could use right now in this day and age. But um so I'm reading one of his his new book is called undistracted. So it really talks about all the distractions in our life and.

44:38.21

syrupcoaching

You.

44:47.28

syrupcoaching

No.

44:52.81

Libby

You know, um, the benefit of recognizing what those distractions are and being able to stuff away from being distracted and really focusing on what matters So That's my nonfiction that I'm reading and then the fiction that I am getting ready to start. Ah, is called like the perfect marriage I think so um.

45:11.52

syrupcoaching

Um, who is it doesn't have the blue cover. Oh no, no, that's an American marriage. Yeah.

45:16.39

Libby

Okay, so it's it's a total all I know about it is. It's about a man who's married to an attorney. He has an affair his mistress turns up dead and his wife has to defend him and save him.

45:26.72

syrupcoaching

Um, ah you.

45:32.19

Libby

So it sounds really interesting and totally trashy. So um, I'm looking forward to that one I'm actually finishing a book right now about um, it's a true story and it was actually one that I listened to a podcast so I don't know if you've ever listened to American scandal. Do you listen to that podcast at all.

45:46.10

syrupcoaching

You know I know what it is but I haven't listened to it.

45:51.25

Libby

So I guess the best way describe it is they just they have many series and it's it's typically like 4 or 5 podcasts in a series that talks through a story of something that's happened in american history. So but it's a scandal so like Watergate was one of them. They.

46:02.14

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

46:07.50

Libby

Some really really good ones. A lance arms strong story was 1 of them. Um, really interesting. But there's one I started listening to and it was about the I don't know if I'm going to say it right? The osage or osage indian group that this was back in the early nineteen hundreds

46:09.20

syrupcoaching

Um, that's you um.

46:20.54

syrupcoaching

Okay.

46:26.37

Libby

There were they were being murdered and because they so they their land that they were on had oil. They're they're on land that had a lot of oil earn so they all became really wealthy and rich, but it is the book. So I listen started listening to the podcast.

46:38.81

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

46:41.20

Libby

Got really into the None episode and then to listen to the rest. It said you had to download a different app and pay for it. So I was like oh I'm not going to do that? Um, well come to find out I knew someone who had a book that was all about this. So I'm almost finished with the book I will say it is so good.

46:52.98

syrupcoaching

Um, tell Okay, um.

46:59.60

Libby

So infuriating to read like just the course of American history like what happened to this group and what you know what people were able to get away with for so long. So I haven't finished it I'm hoping and praying that these these men get caught that um, that did this and treated them this way. But um, it's a really good book. So.

47:13.50

syrupcoaching

Again.

47:19.50

Libby

I could go on and on about books for hours.

47:20.13

syrupcoaching

Ah, yes, um, if you guys finish this other marriage book I have to recommend the American marriage It is one of my all time favorite books and I think it got picked up to be in like.

47:26.61

Libby

Okay, I'm writing it down right now.

47:36.90

syrupcoaching

After it came out like a year or two later then they got put in like Oprah's book club and Reese Witherspoon's book club. Um, it is so good. It is fiction and just the complexities of marriage through time and in the south at a time where you know there was some unrest. So.

47:39.95

Libby

Oh is it fiction. Okay.

47:53.26

Libby

Okay.

47:55.86

syrupcoaching

Highly recommend that I have None last question for you and what I ask everybody? um a girlfriend and of mine and in college we started this like if you had a button to do whatever was what would it do. And it's so silly like everyone's answers are always all over the place. So I'm curious to hear yours like you had this button with you at all times you could press it and something would happen. What would be your dream.

48:21.94

Libby

There are so I feel like there's so many things right? that I'm sure everyone has a hard time like giving one answer to it so I would say if I could push a button and make it do something I would probably make it like.

48:26.10

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, yeah, you couldn't give it. You can let's totally fine.

48:41.24

Libby

Ah, traveling Button. So like I push it and I just appear wherever I need to be so no more flying. No more driving long distances. Um, you know it's funny because I'm like I always try to also analyze so at my my corporate job Like. We have someone on our team who's really good at like analyzing. Everybody's answers and she always asks these great icebreakers during our meetings and um I feel like if I was to to analyze my answer if somebody else gave it I'd probably say it's probably it's about time right saving time like.

49:07.30

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, yeah.

49:14.22

Libby

For me I think time is like the most important thing out of you know the most important thing we have um so to be able to save time I think would be so so great. But yes, just to push that button and I show up in Florida in about 2 minutes

49:27.23

syrupcoaching

Um, let me analyze your answer a little bit further I think what you were talking about you know, right? in the beginning of our podcast of like stress and like you you eliminate the travel stress.

49:43.69

Libby

Yeah.

49:45.55

syrupcoaching

You don't have to worry about getting all the boys in a car on a plane on anything you are making it easy on yourself and them.

49:52.97

Libby

Yeah, it no totally right? And I'm not like I fly I wouldn't say a lot. Um I you know I probably get on a plane at least a few times a year um but I don't enjoy it I don't like the process right of of having to drive.

50:01.23

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

50:09.19

Libby

Airport and check in and wait in line get on the plane like and plus you always deal the stress right? nowadays of flying I'm not knowing you know are you gonna be delayed. Are you yeah is your flight going to get canceled. So yes I think you're right like the stress of not having to deal with with flying plus saving all that time.

50:10.89

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

50:24.23

syrupcoaching

Um, ah, nice. Oh now I'm dreaming of a vacation that is not but or needs to be um.

50:27.17

Libby

That's what my button would do. I doesn't mean to.

50:37.13

syrupcoaching

Awesome! Well thank you so much for joining us today libby this is awesome conversation I feel like we can keep chatting but I know you have a None things to get back to. But thank you so much for your time.

50:46.10

Libby

Thank you Thanks for having me I look forward to listening to all the other podcasts to come.

50:52.94

syrupcoaching

Yay! There's some fun guests coming so stay tuned. Awesome!

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