A Side of Syrup Podcast - EP022: Why You Should Be Eating Fermented Foods Everyday with Julie O'Brien of Firefly Kitchens

What if I told you the secret to gut health is just forkful away? And you could start doing it today…

It was a chance meeting that introduced me to Julie and now I want to cozy up in her Seattle kitchen and just hang! I liken that to my relationship with sauerkraut itself. I didn’t it before, but now it fills up my belly and body with nourishment, I can’t not have it, I always want it around.

Julie and her business, Firefly Kitchens, are on a mission to make vibrant, flavorful organic ferments full of gut-nourishing goodness. Julie is an advocate for eating fermented food every day - regardless of your age. Why? because fermented foods, and Firefly Kitchens specifically make their products the old-fashioned way because wild ferments need time to cultivate their probiotic power and tasty tang. That power and tang helps take care of your gut - which helps with immunity, energy, skin health, and so much more. It’s really the superfood for superfood.

Want to get started on your own fermented foods journey? Head to your local Whole Foods Market or order below on Julie’s site. The Firefly Kimchi is my all-time fav! Additionally, Julie gifted our community with delicious recpies using her kraut. Download your copy here, learn how to add fermented foods to your plate here, and visit their website for many more.

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Full episode transcript:

Hi! My name is Shannon Pfeffer. I'm obsessed with understanding the how and the why behind feeling good and translating that knowledge into strategies that help you live better.

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00:01.28

syrupcoaching

I'm sitting here with a bowl next to me an empty bowl mind you after lunch and I am full satisfied satiated and the flavor was amazing all because of our guests today. Julie O'brien of Firefly Kitchens she is on a mission to get more crout in your home and in your body specifically your gut today we break down why it's important to have fermented foods every day. Regardless of how old or how young you are I have to say the kimchi sauerkraut as well as the kimchi salt she has is my go to on any sort of dishes where I want that flavoring I'm so easy to incorporate. Ah, give it to my kids I give it to my family I don't even tell him it's in there and always let me tell you they ask? What is that flavor taste so good. It's all because of Julie there's like a peace of mind knowing that my family's god health is being taken care of. Of her amazing product out of a kitchen in Seattle a commercial kitchen mind you. But Julie's got some funny stories in here about how they got to that point. But anyway, get ready to learn a lot know what's important in your health and your family's health.

01:36.22

syrupcoaching

And open your taste profile to something that's probably already on a store shelf near you I'm sure you live buy whole foods or you can order whole foods plus available so many other places locally especially up where Julia is from in Seattle but I would really love to just. Get started with this episode because Julie shares so much information. That's so important to us today. There's a lot of like whelms things out there that have just a price tag on them and kraut doesn't it's so easy to incorporate It's so inexpensive and it tastes great when it's well-made without all the stuff in there the sugar and the vinger Julie's crowdut will change your mind and Julie's episode will change your thoughts on why ferment and foods should be part of your diet. Every single day.

00:01.39

syrupcoaching

Hello everybody I am thrilled to introduce today's guest on the side of syrup podcast. We've got Julie O'brien from firefly kitchens ah, she's got quite a story of how she came to be and. How she is obsessed and loving fermented foods and why everyone should have it in their daily diets. But first I actually met Julie through my very best friend through a chance meeting she had with Julie in Seattle. And that's how you sort of meet the best people good people will track good people. Um, and so I have known Julie a little bit now and I've been using her products and I have some favorites which we'll get into but ah, but I just I'm really impressed because she makes. Fermented food, fun and and very very tasty and it's become a household staple for us so without further ah without further I can't even speak today without further ado here is Julie Julie welcome to the podcast.

01:05.90

Julie O_Brien

Thank you Thanks for having me and thanks for being a fan of fermented foods because we're all, we're all healthier and and stronger Together. You know what I mean and so the more people that we get who believe in the possibilities. The better off we are as the small business. Yeah.

01:26.51

syrupcoaching

A hundred percent and better off we are as humans if we're taking care of our gut and really feeding I'd like to say like feeding the good bugs you know, then then that's a win win for us all whether no matter what age you are. They'll say that.

01:35.19

Julie O_Brien

Yeah.

01:43.76

Julie O_Brien

Well, it's one of those things I love to share with people is that um you know these foods are for everybody. These foods aren't for just cultured people or a woke people or sick people. These foods are.

02:01.80

Julie O_Brien

It's a vegetable that's been fermented for a month and now it's ah I always say it's like a bionic vegetable so these foods are for everybody you know happy people sad people large people small people sick healthy and I really.

02:04.22

syrupcoaching

Okay.

02:19.17

Julie O_Brien

I Love helping everybody. But for me the excitement lies in the prevention and the possibilities and you know getting rid of the old stigma about sauerkcraut and and and and making it not just something you put on your hot dog.

02:36.18

syrupcoaching

And here.

02:38.49

Julie O_Brien

Orbial brats you know once a week or once a month but rather an ingredient that you were eating every single day and I have a vision where someday our families families are all just fermenting at their house every day you just grow up knowing all right. It's time to put my cabbage in. Salt and let it sit and do its thing because I'll believe that this food is is about as mediciney as food can get.

02:57.64

syrupcoaching

Okay. Totally totally and I think there's there's definitely a stigma of like the the age food but it's silly because I know so many of my listeners favorite foods are wine and cheese Two things.

03:15.90

Julie O_Brien

Before.

03:18.78

syrupcoaching

That have to age in order to taste good. Um.

03:22.45

Julie O_Brien

Wellsh yeah charouttery you know cheese sout you know sourdoughs there's so many good things out there chocolate you know coffee all these things that have been around for a long time that are really valued in our culture still today because there's has's been this.

03:28.63

syrupcoaching

Is it.

03:36.93

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

03:40.25

Julie O_Brien

Art you know associated with it and pleasure and luxury and um, there's no shortage of wine you know selling good wine but but I feel like sauerkraut has kind of not really enjoyed that. Um that limelight or you know.

03:46.69

syrupcoaching

From now.

03:59.97

Julie O_Brien

Spotlight until they really started looking at the the gut and the microbiome and it's like oh so bacteria which we just used to think we're all bad. Turns out, there's good and bad bacteria. Oh and it turns out we're a lot more bacteria than we are.

04:15.73

syrupcoaching

The her.

04:18.83

Julie O_Brien

And oh maybe we shouldn't be just pasteurizing and killing everything but yet honoring these these bugs these probiotic bacteria that grow Naturally when allowed to during a natural fermentation process. So it's pretty exciting. Um.

04:25.45

syrupcoaching

We find.

04:33.75

syrupcoaching

Right here.

04:38.18

Julie O_Brien

It's been. It's exciting to be a part of that because we've been fermenting for over thirteen years now and it's been a slow damn uphill battle to you know trying to make it.

04:43.28

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah.

04:53.25

Julie O_Brien

Be an everyday and everyday item on a table.

04:55.56

syrupcoaching

For sure for sure and you know what's interesting to me I you know that I have three young kids and anytime any of my kids has been on medication. Our Pediatrician always says to have yogurt afterwards you know to to sort of build up that good bacteria.

04:59.88

Julie O_Brien

Are.

05:11.27

Julie O_Brien

Um, for you. Let's speak councils had its day right? You know like um.

05:15.27

syrupcoaching

And I don't yeah yeah, right? But I don't remember a time like when I was a kid. It was like oh you have medication and you're Fine. You're healthy Again. There's no like period where like you, you know what? you should take Care. You've been really sick where you had this. Medication to wipe out your system. You need to build that back up like that's just not part that wasn't part of the the culture but now becoming much more. So.

05:38.13

Julie O_Brien

And come yes, it's exciting and again this is where what I love is that I mean we've I like to contribute a lot of Firefly success to Bestier University who you know has been. You know, educating natropaths and ecupuncturists for a long time here now in Seattle and so those people who got the guts before western you know western western med is yeah I I that past.

06:04.61

syrupcoaching

Yeah, catching out.

06:10.37

Julie O_Brien

Anyway, they're trying to just quick fix things and next are past are trying to look at the whole body and so this is where you know not only should we have these foods when we're sick to try to help us rebuild our systems and combat some of the effects of the antibiotics. But.

06:20.79

syrupcoaching

It has.

06:29.69

Julie O_Brien

You know, taking a step back even further. Let's incorporate these into everyday life because we know we're a lot of good bacteria and a lot of bad bacteria and think about every time we consume sugar alcohol processed foods which you know is every day for a lot of us.

06:34.22

syrupcoaching

Break.

06:43.54

syrupcoaching

They who? yeah.

06:49.41

Julie O_Brien

They are either feeding the bad bacteria or killing the good bacteria and so so you have this lovely easy opportunity to just add a forkfall into your into your day every day now you know that there are new good.

06:54.66

syrupcoaching

Me here.

07:09.60

Julie O_Brien

Positive Probiotic healthy bacteria being delivered main main lining into your system and then those bacteria because in my mind they come naturally on these foods. They know where your body knows what to do with it versus.

07:21.21

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

07:27.30

Julie O_Brien

Dissolving a pill you know of some bugs that are made in a lab and I'm not knocking them at all because there's a lot of good. Really a lot of good quality. Um high end supplements out there in different ways to get probiotics. But um, this is just such an easy and.

07:34.41

syrupcoaching

Yes.

07:45.75

Julie O_Brien

Incredibly tasty way to do it.

07:46.25

syrupcoaching

Totally totally? Yeah, actually you brought up the alcohol thing I saw a study you posted yesterday and I follow a lot of functional medicine folks on Instagram and this study was making the rounds of you know. It's not just like when you consume alcohol and then it kind of wipes out your system. It's for up to days afterwards. So you know, just if if you yes you could take the probiotic pills or you know have culture yogurt or you know, whatever.

08:11.00

Julie O_Brien

Are.

08:22.36

syrupcoaching

But you could just have fermented foods as part of your daily diet and then you're not worrying about anything you're taking care of.

08:28.29

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah I I have a wonderful um friend who is a pediatric gastroontologist here in Seattle Dr Picirodi and she's with swedish and she. She has shared with me in the past that you know 90% of her patients that she has these little people with with gut issues probably 90% of them would not need to see her if she were able to help you know if those patients were eating.

08:52.96

syrupcoaching

There.

09:00.54

syrupcoaching

But.

09:00.89

Julie O_Brien

These kinds of foods and just food in general. But so often by the time they get to her the damage has been done and that first rung of doctors just said. Yeah I don't know what's going on here. Try these pills. So food really is the answer and this is where I just feel like young moms these days have access to so much more information I mean you as a mom you know so much more than I did when I when my kids who are now 22 24.

09:32.58

syrupcoaching

Where.

09:34.76

Julie O_Brien

You know so much more we as a culture know so much more? Um, but but luckily I feel like I did know twenty years ago that food was really important I just didn't know why and I sure as hell didn't know about fermented foods then so.

09:49.99

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's's super interesting because you know there's what the the doctors tell you and what you can find online but like for my youngest son he had like this very strange facial rash and I was like what. I was like four months old I I don't even know what to do here and it was before you started foods like solid foods or anything and so I was like I looked into there was like a let me tell you it was a fortune. It was like a hundred and eighty dollars a month.

10:17.55

Julie O_Brien

Um.

10:25.84

syrupcoaching

Like a probitic supplement but it was one specific strand for newborns I'm like you know what? I'm not putting him on any medicine I'm I'm going to try this and see what this can do and his face cleared up and it never came back again and he was on three months

10:33.40

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah.

10:42.83

Julie O_Brien

Wow we how do you know? babies come into this world so sterile right? and all of a sudden you know they going through the birth canal they are getting their first boost of ah immunity right? And then.

10:44.76

syrupcoaching

So move.

10:58.87

syrupcoaching

Um, and great.

11:00.40

Julie O_Brien

Hopefully they're getting your milk and and that is the beginning of their population of their Immune system and I I just feel like we should be feeding little people sauerkcraut but people are like oh that it's alive. It's there's bugs in there and I'm like oh my God you know.

11:10.84

syrupcoaching

Of course.

11:19.45

Julie O_Brien

Poor mob or like I remember when we started. We'd be at the farmer's market thirteen years ago and these mobs who have been said you know that they've been their doctors are like don't eat raw food. You know they're there when they say that I think they're talking about raw meat. Don't eat sushi like well. But do you eat fruit.

11:30.97

syrupcoaching

Um, right like here's some sushi.

11:38.50

Julie O_Brien

Do you eat vegetables because this is just a vegetable with a bunch of salt in it. In fact, take it a step further once it's fermented after a month the ph is so low. It's about 3 point it's about three point seven three point five E Coli and salmonella.

11:40.90

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, yeah, um.

11:52.23

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

11:58.40

Julie O_Brien

Can't even live in that acidity and so so it's just one more little un talked about health benefit that these boot that these foods one of the miraculous things that they do all the time that we don't celebrate.

11:58.89

syrupcoaching

Who.

12:04.78

syrupcoaching

This.

12:12.87

syrupcoaching

Yeah, totally and and when the kids were eating solids. You would set me like a puree that you guys make and that's just easy because we'll we'll make smoothies in the morning and you can just pop a little bit of it in my youngest son also has like a.

12:22.50

Julie O_Brien

Um, is it.

12:31.18

syrupcoaching

Very like he loves the like the strong taste so he's he's the aim for whatever. Um.

12:37.37

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah, you have to raise you know you have to raise kids not sheltered. You know, think about you know all the people who are like oh no I has to be playing noodles and some carrots and. And maybe some broccoli if you if you put ketchup on it. So You know all we're doing is just encouraging plain Bland You know, no noross pollinating of flavors.

12:54.40

syrupcoaching

Right? right? or man.

13:08.43

Julie O_Brien

Whereas if if you start incorporating these foods in when they're little I mean I love watching I Love watching parents when they're really playful with their kids palette and then there are those parents where we'll be sitting there and we're like you want to try a sample and they're like oh no, they won't eat that and I'm like well way to set them up for success.

13:16.83

syrupcoaching

Is it.

13:25.49

syrupcoaching

You know I know I know it's just like have fun have fun with it. You have fun with your food. Yeah.

13:31.72

Julie O_Brien

Yeah, is natural if they don't have a parent telling him. They're not going to like it I mean kids kids will gravitate not sour that you get in these foods is really a really important part of ah ah. Ah, Palate. You know, not just sugar and salt which is what so much of the American Diet really is but adding that sour and you know.

13:52.32

syrupcoaching

yeah yeah I learned something um my oldest son goes to occupational therapy and I learned something from one of the therapists and it it really stuck with me of like most of the day. We're trying to find our our place in the ground like how do we feel like we've got two feet there we're sitting down we're secure and as an adult like you have your ways like right now I'm crossing my legs I have a pen in my hand when I'm talking. Um you know like there's different ways we can move our bodies to feel that way. But young kids oftentimes don't feel like they have a place in in the world. So that's where they run around or jump or or move and then she said that food actually helps like a really strong pungent taste.

14:35.44

Julie O_Brien

Yeah I feel that way. Just.

14:48.20

syrupcoaching

Can sort of like settle a child down because it gives them a big feeling of um sensory awareness in their body. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

14:54.85

Julie O_Brien

Um, curiosity too like whoa What just happened in my mouth. That's I want more that I mean that's kind of it's it's That's what we oftentimes sometimes people you know they'll take a fork full of our so our food and they'll go whoa. It's so fresh.

15:05.41

syrupcoaching

Permit review. Yeah.

15:11.49

Julie O_Brien

Now that's crazy that the word fresh. The first thing out of the mouth of somebody when they're eating a food that's been fermented because you know fermentation is actually the you know the natural breaking down of.

15:25.27

syrupcoaching

Who.

15:28.60

Julie O_Brien

You know of the foods. Um, but it's a building of of flavor and um and flavors and probiotics. You know these new Bacteria and the bacteria are really largely. What are part of.

15:36.48

syrupcoaching

Yes.

15:44.00

Julie O_Brien

The flavors and and the enhancement and the commingling of the enjoyment ahead.

15:50.30

syrupcoaching

It's awesome it's awesome I mean I just want to back up a second you are extremely passionate about it and you have an amazing product. But how did you get here like where did the idea strike.

16:02.45

Julie O_Brien

Ah, my family keeps saying how how did this? Ah, where did the last thirteen years ago who so when I turned 40 about Ge almost seventeen years ago my kids were sort of you know, not needing as much of my time and. I I had had a small little promotional advertising business I was running at home while while remodeling a hundred year old house and so um I I enrolled in a nutritional therapy program because I knew I needed to be doing something with people and with food and so.

16:30.76

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

16:37.40

Julie O_Brien

In this sort of holistic eating program. There was a big emphasis on selling supplements and so I got in there and then I was like oh wait a minute I don't really want to just supplements are great, but that's just again like people not doing the right. You know you know like. I'm going to take these pills so I don't have to make a smoothie I can just take all these things and again there's nothing wrong with that There's definitely a time in place for it. But that first week of class I was reading this book called nourishing traditions you know and the first 69 pages were.

16:58.35

syrupcoaching

Right.

17:14.17

Julie O_Brien

The nuts and bolts of really a more holistic way of thinking about foods and there were 4 pages in there about naturally fermented foods and my pop at the time was going through colon cancer and there's just this big proverbial light bulb went off in my head and I was like oh my god.

17:16.65

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah.

17:33.94

Julie O_Brien

These fermented foods like sauerkraut like I didn't really I was pretty healthy but I didn't know about sauerkcraut being healthy and that was because back then 99% of the crowdut in this country is all pasteurized or made with vinegar and sugar. So.

17:52.41

syrupcoaching

Um, ah yeah, yeah.

17:52.86

Julie O_Brien

That's why I didn't stick out in my mind I'm just sitting there going if it's got probiotics and enzymes and electrolytes and vitaminc and a ctocholine and vitamin k 2 and helps you with your digestion and I was like why why aren't doctors prescribing this. Why isn't this. Everybody's table every day. How come. Everybody's not doing it and and so that that drastically changed my course of wanting to just work 1 on one with people because I was like I would be really bad as the nutritional therapist I would be making food and giving it to every person that I was in contact with.

18:14.60

syrupcoaching

My yeah.

18:28.33

syrupcoaching

Yeah, so.

18:32.27

Julie O_Brien

Which is what I'm pretty much doing after 13 years because really hard to grow food company unless you have Vc money behind you especially a fermented food company and I just refuse to do that because that's when corners get cut and things are in plastic and they don't do organic and it's like. Why would you be wanting to put a bunch of pesticides in your food that you're going to ferment and and make healthier. So we you know we absolutely don't sway on the organic piece because that's essential and we ferment for a full 30 full 30 days and.

18:53.36

syrupcoaching

In that on you.

19:11.20

Julie O_Brien

I Just wanted to add that there is a very very very big difference between you know, pickling and fermenting and the words get interchanged pretty pretty much a lot a lot of picklers are riding the fermentation wave and going. Oh these foods are really healthy and they are.

19:18.92

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

19:28.17

syrupcoaching

Yes.

19:30.20

Julie O_Brien

If just don't have the nutrition they you know they don't have that cabbage as a base you know and and just taking cabbage and putting sugar and vinegar and then heating it up. So it's shelf stable. You're just not comparing apples to apples now.

19:34.44

syrupcoaching

Right.

19:43.99

syrupcoaching

No, no, it's like you know you can make delicious jam or you can like freeze some fruit like there's ah like you can freeze it with nothing. You can make delicious jam with a lot of sugar but it's not going to do you the same as eating the fruit.

19:58.69

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, so that's the anyway that's how I got into it. You know that's what made the light bulb go off and then I kind of was like what am I going to do you know for a couple of years I'm like I I can't just start making sauerkrap.

20:03.23

syrupcoaching

Yeah food. Yeah yeah, yeah. Um, yeah.

20:17.91

Julie O_Brien

Then I met a fella through a mutual friend and then we're like we should do this and so we started fermenting and I remember getting like £80 of cabbage and then next thing you know you know we call the farmer's market and they said you'd sell all that in one day so then we just kind of started. Ramping up a cater lettuce user kitchen and then you know five months later in the summer the the kimchi smells are wafting up through the storage into the architects above so we got booted out so when we found our own our own home up in. Um.

20:50.44

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

20:52.80

Julie O_Brien

The industrial district in Seattle in ballard community so we've been there for the last twelve years

21:01.44

syrupcoaching

That's amazing, amazing and then where did Angie in you eat at the bellard farmers market. Yeah.

21:03.92

Julie O_Brien

We we met at a Pcc we were in there doing demos and I think her sweetie walked by and I was like you want to try some crowd and he's like I don't like that stuff and when people say that especially as smart young man you know I was like oh I got this one and then and I think.

21:17.29

syrupcoaching

Yeah, um, right.

21:22.88

Julie O_Brien

And then I kind of called Angie over and you know she must have thought I was crazy but I was just you know, having fun with people who don't eat souecrad but yet they were dressed to go work out and so I he spent 15 minutes with them having him taste stuff and fun and that's the kind of thing that.

21:36.72

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

21:41.19

Julie O_Brien

Gives me joy is really having those connections with people and here are these people who really value health and good food. They just didn't know they didn't know about this 1 more offering that's out there.

21:48.11

syrupcoaching

Yeah. Totally and and immediately when she came home. She didn't she didn't call or text me she ordered me the product and she's like you must try this.

22:03.31

Julie O_Brien

Um, this is.

22:08.52

syrupcoaching

And just like here's a tracking number this is coming to your door and I was like okay so you know.

22:12.10

Julie O_Brien

Um, okay, she's one off, No well thanks for sharing that? Yeah, we do ship you know we're mostly a west coast company. Um, but it's just it's so hard to ship and to be in these grocery stores because.

22:27.30

syrupcoaching

Now.

22:29.16

Julie O_Brien

The grocery stores make just as much money I mean it just is the capitalism model is a little bit difficult so we're we're trying to start doing more. You know we do a lot we ship around the country every every week and it's pretty easy to just have a box show up with your your probiotics.

22:34.67

syrupcoaching

Yes.

22:46.95

Julie O_Brien

You know your food for a week or two. So I have these visions of doing some really cool. You know more value added products because you know my where I love getting innovative is mixing the crowd with other things. You know we talked about smoothies but there's a whole nother slew of ideas that I can.

22:47.38

syrupcoaching

Definitely.

23:05.74

Julie O_Brien

Share with people and at the end I'll share some I have some little recipe cards and have a whole cookbook. But I love giving people those easy ways to get. You know you can make a probiotic peanut butter in 2 minutes by just blending up unsalted peanut butter with plain crowd. You know.

23:07.40

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

23:23.99

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

23:24.86

Julie O_Brien

Peanut sauce. You know a power probiotic sauce mixed with yogurt miso. You know? so.

23:29.26

syrupcoaching

Yeah, and that dispels anybody Ge like I I I won't like this I can't eat I because I guarantee in your recipe cards or in your cookbook. There's a taste profile for anyone.

23:43.53

Julie O_Brien

Yeah, well I put it in desserts. You know I have this goat cheese cream cheese tart that has crout in it and it is kind of an oat almond cookie crust and then the top is um. Dried apricots kind of stewed with apricot jam and then more crowd in there and the crowd's not cooked ever. You know so it's kind of a older cheese tart and then I put pistachios on the top I mean that stuff that thing is so good because while there's plenty of sweetness and creaminess.

24:02.30

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

24:15.44

Julie O_Brien

It's that salt kind of envelopes its way in there and it's just every bite is is balanced right? Then you don't really need to overeat it. So I don't need to go in the dessert making business but Quiver Oh why.

24:22.49

syrupcoaching

Yeah, Okay, yeah, yeah, um I I need I need that that recipe because total side note here and.

24:33.50

Julie O_Brien

Okay.

24:38.11

syrupcoaching

Because of having three kids. It's impossible to go out unless it's like a special occasion. So my husband and I have started a we're calling it cafe fer where we we've got Well, it's coming to a dining set in our backyard in like hanging lights and all that and bring meals in.

24:55.64

Julie O_Brien

Um, a friend.

24:57.78

syrupcoaching

But like out of the house with like baby monitors. Um, but anyway he is um this is why I was so interested in and meeting you initially because he has a terrible stomach and we've never been able to figure out why he's seen all the doctors and all the specialists. Um.

24:58.50

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah, um.

25:15.78

Julie O_Brien

Um.

25:17.80

syrupcoaching

But when he has the regular crout in his diet. It's so much better. He can't do the spicy kimchi which I would love for him to be able to do that. But it's so delicious and easy to throw in. But.

25:25.71

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah.

25:31.90

Julie O_Brien

It's I'm I'm so happy that you brought that up and and glad that it's giving him some comfort. But again if you think about these foods. Not only are they start in your mouth with flavor and they can jazz up. You know. I'm at that point where almost any time I eat something I'm like you know what this needs and my kids are like sauerkcraut you know it always does it always needs that crunch and that bright either color or flavor. But then what happens is as it's traveling down through your system. It's already starting to go to work and so.

25:47.10

syrupcoaching

Who. That.

26:05.81

Julie O_Brien

<unk> It's like your husband's body knows it probably gets it goes right to where it's needed. You know as opposed to like all right I'm gonna I'm going to just beeline straight for the colon. You know I got some work to do up here. So I'd love have this whole animated.

26:19.27

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

26:22.90

Julie O_Brien

Visual of Probiotic Bacteria going through the gut and I have these invisible superheroes I've already got names for them. You know I I have a little overactive imagination. But I'm like kids are the answer we have to we have to get kids meaning we have to get moms.

26:32.60

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah.

26:41.43

Julie O_Brien

To to talk about these foods and I'm like make it at home. You're have to buy it from Firefly make it at home. But but just do it. Grab a friend grab grab a neighbor have a community crout making day you know because.

26:53.71

syrupcoaching

Yeah I mean yeah I I took some of your product I have ah like a mom's group that meets every couple of months and and there are 4 women in the group who have some sort of nutrition or health background and they were like yes like um you know how do I you know figure out how to incorporate this or how do I note more and you know I think just like being able to get the word out because I mean in marketing speak like you've created a direct tos consumerer brand and it's.

27:27.63

Julie O_Brien

Are.

27:32.53

syrupcoaching

It's just one of those that I feel like everyone needs to hear about because it's not.. It's not just for you and your own health. But it's I Also think there's ah something that we haven't quite touched on but we've talked about a little bit like everyone's taste buds in. In this country at least are really programmed for the salt and the sweet and that's what we go for? oh this needs This coffee needs sugar in it to taste better. This dish needs salt in it to taste better.

27:56.38

Julie O_Brien

Um.

28:03.86

syrupcoaching

Like that that like bitter part of the tongue is really under Utiliz and could really amp up a lot of flavor and recipes and and sort of fill a need that maybe we go for other things for like maybe this. Isn't fulfilling me so I'm going to have something sweet or have something salty and.

28:20.46

Julie O_Brien

Well and and I think what happens is because so much of the food isn't balanced people just keep overeating. It's like you know what they took the fat out of yogurt and sour cream and all those things people got bigger because they just.

28:26.50

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

28:34.16

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

28:37.90

Julie O_Brien

Eight five times as much because there was no fat kind of holding it all together I feel like sauerkraud or these foods had just one more layer of balance into so you're not just needing another bite to try to satiate. There's.

28:43.94

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

28:56.49

Julie O_Brien

Balance going on in your palate and and we all eat way too fast as a culture and so I think you know if you just kind of can be a little party going on in your mouth if you put all the right ingredients and right flavors together. You know.

29:00.34

syrupcoaching

Death. Yep.

29:12.61

syrupcoaching

Yeah, a hundred percent I remember so.

29:16.30

Julie O_Brien

Will be quite often. You know it's like what you were talking about earlier. They're just eating because they think that's what they need to do and and you know I remember I've been with my husband for 27 years and we used to go backpacking and we'd make food like you know he would have a. Ah bagel with a piece of turkey on it and I'm like oh excuse me I need pesto and I need some red peppers and some sprouts and I need all of that other stuff in there. So I'm I'm being more than Fueled. It's just not black and white. You know carbs.

29:44.60

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

29:51.11

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

29:54.50

Julie O_Brien

And and and so um, he's evolved a lot to be like this.

29:58.47

syrupcoaching

I'm laughing I'm Julie I'm laughing here one time I came home. My husband said he cooked dinner and I had it was like a salmon veggie. It was like a whole meal I walked in the kitchen and it was a piece of salmon on bread with some mustard.

30:13.70

Julie O_Brien

Oh.

30:16.78

syrupcoaching

And I was like I can't eat that and I was like I'm not even being a food stop I'm being like this is going to have zero flavor zero anything um

30:27.24

Julie O_Brien

Um.

30:28.70

syrupcoaching

But yeah I think once you sort of like get used to like you need like a little zing and it doesn't have to be nut sauce and it doesn't have to be Maple syrup. You know there's another. There's another option on the table or in the fridge that you know I feel more people need to.

30:32.30

Julie O_Brien

Now.

30:44.88

syrupcoaching

To try or be open to trying.

30:45.36

Julie O_Brien

Yeah, yeah, shine a little light. Yeah no I feel like it adds. We. We always say pure probiotic brilliance. You know it's you know, brighten your bite I like to say brighten your bite lighten your load and you know I just can't not. Bring up one of the number one health benefits. We're not I know I'm standing in my kitchen but we're not cooking so you know at the end of the day and one of the number 1 benefits of these foods beyond the the taste is the the support for your digestive system in so many ways. The number 1 being bowel movements. You know I I remember meeting a woman who who had a six year old who was on high strength um laxatives six years old

31:24.67

syrupcoaching

Here.

31:36.38

syrupcoaching

This.

31:38.76

Julie O_Brien

And she said after eating, you know she would she learned about these foods she gave her daughter of ah a spoon of the classic crowd every day the plain one she got off her. She got off the pills. It was just having that the fiber you know and for a little tiny body that's.

31:50.28

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

31:56.23

syrupcoaching

And if.

31:58.34

Julie O_Brien

Missing something. 1 little bite can do it wonders. So I always tell people if you haven't had these foods in your diet and you get spared just start small because they're they're powerful. They're not going to. They're not going to clean you out, you know like.

32:06.34

syrupcoaching

There.

32:17.58

Julie O_Brien

Getting you know food poisoning or something. But if you have a lot of issues and you are now putting all these good bacteria in there. They're going to go and they're going to clean up and there might be a little bit of discomfort and that's definitely different than you know.

32:21.24

syrupcoaching

Is it.

32:36.98

Julie O_Brien

Oh those suits are too hard in my system. You know what I mean.

32:37.61

syrupcoaching

Yeah, exactly exactly and I think like the other link is if you have a good gut that impacts your Immune system and impacts your skin impacts your dental health as well.

32:52.36

Julie O_Brien

Ah, yeah, you are your metabolism you know your blood sugar I've had people say that anxiety and depression that this is just it's like a Stabilizer. It's and you know never tell anybody to.

33:04.96

syrupcoaching

Um, like this.

33:08.15

Julie O_Brien

Do anything drastic. Go off their meds or whatever but to hear people just say god does food is it's it helps me with XYAndZ I mean I've heard a lot a lot over the years and I'm grateful and.

33:08.51

syrupcoaching

You will okay.

33:18.70

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, yeah.

33:23.99

Julie O_Brien

Meeting the customers and and hearing from those people are what really keep me going right? yeah.

33:27.67

syrupcoaching

Awesome! That's awesome. Yeah, and and 1 thing that I learned I learned from the internet and I tried it when I was pregnant but I was my first time being pregnant I was not sick at all I was a breeze the second time I was so sick.

33:46.59

Julie O_Brien

Um, many.

33:46.83

syrupcoaching

Um, but I I didn't know about your products then but there was there's an another I would say competitor not as not as good as yours on the market and I would smell it I would I would literally like just sit there and smell it and then I would like sit into like.

33:51.82

Julie O_Brien

Um, he's.

34:06.24

syrupcoaching

Like rice just because it was like I wouldn't eat a lot at that point. Um, but it helped it helped it helped like like this like nauseating feeling of like oh well God Maybe I can eat more food now because I feel better. Um.

34:08.74

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:23.99

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah, yeah, but you know the whole I mean that's one could say that's placebo or you know like I've often wondered just when I go into our kitchen and you know when we ferment we.

34:24.55

syrupcoaching

But that was something that I didn't know I was like no this is not gonna work like this is like just like a wife's tail old wife's tale.

34:41.74

Julie O_Brien

We'll have like ah we do a thousand pounds of or a ton. How much is a ton up. It's a lot. We do a ton of cabbage at a time and then on days where we're we're jarring. We'll go through four barrels sometimes I'll walk into the kitchen and it's.

34:45.28

syrupcoaching

Yeah, me elvin.

34:58.65

Julie O_Brien

<unk> doing kimchi and you know you can smell it down the block and it's our kimchi's vegan.. There's no fish or shrimp in it and we actually use green cabbage instead of Napa. So We're really inspired by those wonderful Korean flavors. But we're trying to just make a crunchy vibrant more accessible. You know there's just a lot of people that don't like that fish. Um, so so I was just like I Always think about you know you look at all the we have all these pores. Why can't that garlic and Ginger. You know all of those probiotics that are in the food are.

35:19.70

syrupcoaching

Great.

35:27.16

syrupcoaching

Budget.

35:35.47

Julie O_Brien

Are there some in the air too that we don't even really know about and I don't know I'm thinking about that like could we put this extra brine on our skin and could it go through there and actually work Probably yeah.

35:39.31

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah.

35:46.42

syrupcoaching

Probably I mean probably what is there a way. Yeah, like could you put it in like a carrier oil and then get on your skin.

35:54.14

Julie O_Brien

Yeah I've done facials before where I'll take our plane Brian I did both plain and ki the kimchi definitely yielded a little redder face but a big so at night clay in there have you ever done that you know like I used to just use vinegar.

36:00.29

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah.

36:05.67

syrupcoaching

Yeah, now yeah see you know, heard something new.

36:13.44

Julie O_Brien

I was like I'm going to try the brine and it it was great. It was great. Get her.

36:23.67

syrupcoaching

There's a product that I'm obsessed with of viewers that we haven't talked about and I didn't tell anyone we got 6 people living in our house. So I like didn't tell anybody before I put it in but um, the the salts the one salt made with the kimchi.

36:39.10

Julie O_Brien

Oh yeah.

36:42.64

syrupcoaching

And I put it in I do like a sort of like ah a pork dumpling burger and I put it in there and everyone went bananas like like what did you do? what I'm like it's It's literally just the salt.

36:45.16

Julie O_Brien

The show.

36:54.84

Julie O_Brien

Yeah, well and if you think about it that saw is made from a month long permentation process of the of the kimchi. We actually bought a freeze dryer for the kitchen and then now we we take that and then we.

37:06.91

syrupcoaching

Her.

37:12.56

Julie O_Brien

It takes like 18 hours to freeze dry the kimchi and then we grind that up and mix it with organic spices and salts and then that's what here I'll I'll just show you um, it's.

37:21.80

syrupcoaching

Yeah, it's it's like ridiculous' good because it's like it's not. It's not like a it is't like I hesitate to use spice ons all over spice things. Um, but it's like I've.

37:33.23

Julie O_Brien

Um, I pray Yes, um.

37:39.52

Julie O_Brien

Um, it's know it's Umami I mean their salt is is flavored. You know with spices and stuff. But that's still stuff. You know your your palette still has to sort it out when you when you have this.

37:39.65

syrupcoaching

It's not a flavored salt I feel like it's That's the wrong category. Yeah yeah.

37:57.57

Julie O_Brien

These salts that have the ferment in there. They definitely um, it's just a whole different level of what's going on you put it on scrambled eggs. You put it on popcorn. It's just kind of mind blowing how how how it how it tastes what.

37:58.37

syrupcoaching

What.

38:05.30

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, who.

38:13.91

syrupcoaching

Ah I love it I need trying to walk up partner meat Billy okay, um yeah I just I that that and we use them. We there's there's 3 flavor we we have 3 flavors or those are the 3 flavors you have. Okay, yeah.

38:16.41

Julie O_Brien

I Say it's good stuff. Yeah.

38:27.84

Julie O_Brien

Yeah, yeah, one of my favorite things with the cheese salt too. Besides popcorn is I'll just cut up tofu or you know you can do chicken um mushrooms I just cut them up in saute him in coconut oil with the salt and it's just it's just so easy I've had a mom say.

38:35.13

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

38:40.48

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

38:46.35

Julie O_Brien

When I put it on my broccoli. My kids will eat it but they otherwise they won't touch it and so it's it's you know we say a pinch of probiotics. We are definitely not promoting this as a probiotic substitute you know by all means you should be having you know a bite of fresh stuff. It's the same thing when you cook you know it's best.

38:50.80

syrupcoaching

Um, and.

38:59.95

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

39:05.45

Julie O_Brien

To not really cook these foods but I call it the sacrificial crout when I do sometimes I'll caramelize some with some prosciutto and then I'll throw it in risotto and but I'm just like just grab a forkful while you're cooking and then you know you're you're getting it in there.

39:23.20

syrupcoaching

Okay, Julie I I need your cookbook immediately. Um, what? what's can can you give like another like ah recipe. That's one of your other favorites because it's it's um time and I'm just like this is like food porn for me.

39:32.41

Julie O_Brien

What? Yeah what? So one of my favorite things that that we do is like I'll just take our kimchi which is again you know garlic and Ginger the flavors that really come through it and I'll mix it with peanut butter.

39:43.13

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

39:50.59

Julie O_Brien

And so I just blend the 2 you know you can add a little water a little olive oil a little tamari sesame but at the end of they just peanut butter and our kimchi and a little brine make this really lovely creamy peanut sauce and so then you can just drizzle it over broccoli or. You know, rice or tofu and it just pulls everything together. You get all the fiber from the product and all the flavor. So again, it's just that balance. that's that's um that's created when it's all blended up so that's another one. Um.

40:12.21

syrupcoaching

Um, really yeah.

40:25.66

syrupcoaching

That's awesome and then.

40:28.25

Julie O_Brien

Our Emerald City has um, coriander and dill kale and turmeric. So people who love pickles really like this one because um, just because of that dill. But it's fabulous chopped up with tuna fish with a little a o so it's like you don't have to chop pickles and.

40:41.60

syrupcoaching

Here.

40:46.59

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

40:47.50

Julie O_Brien

Onions and celery. You just chop this up and mix it in really good I'll do salmon burgers and then just throw you know, throw ah a salmon burger cooked over a bed of greens throw the crowd over it a little bit of oil and now you you can use it as a salad dressing.

40:51.55

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, like.

40:57.97

syrupcoaching

Is here.

41:06.22

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

41:06.88

Julie O_Brien

You know and it's it's an ingredient in your salad and then you can use any of the leftover brine After of course you've consumed. You don't want to drain the brine off and use it. Some people do that because they get so excited about the flavors.

41:19.90

syrupcoaching

With yeah.

41:24.62

Julie O_Brien

But the brine is what really protects it and keeps the integrity of you know those Bacteria alive and protects the food. So um, anyway, those are just some other simple simple ideas and.

41:35.53

syrupcoaching

Just yeah of it. Yeah, they're really good.

41:42.22

Julie O_Brien

Probably should mention the carrots too because it's just carts mirror and this is of a really great gateway product for people trying to get their kids into it and little kids you know like a year they love to just grab a little Strand of carrots. You know for.

41:58.54

syrupcoaching

Her yeah.

42:01.66

Julie O_Brien

Not choking and stuff but this is brilliant just throwing it. It's some you know, ah over some arugula with a little bit of you know a little bit of oil some salt and pepper and some nuts and seeds Boom you've got a gourmet salad and people are like what's in here and it's it's.

42:15.47

syrupcoaching

Listen.

42:20.63

Julie O_Brien

That ferment that they taste. So yeah.

42:23.40

syrupcoaching

Yeah, ah of it I love it because that one's so young I forgot I was like I had written down on a post it here I don't like Carrots.

42:29.40

Julie O_Brien

Well, you were you mentioned you know this the this salty and the sweet. You know we've talked about that a little bit and think about like from a chef's perspective or from cooking. You know we're always searching kind of for 1 more thing to balance our soup or whatever.

42:46.32

syrupcoaching

Here.

42:48.60

Julie O_Brien

So we as a culture or you know as a blended culture know that citrus you know so often lemon or lime or vinegars are what we reach for to try to get that nice balance. But I am like.

42:52.59

syrupcoaching

We here. It here.

43:05.29

Julie O_Brien

Go for the crowd because it's the same sort of acidic you know Ph But now you're going to get all the health benefits too so it can't replace it can't replace a true lemon or a lime or a basalmic vinegar.

43:05.65

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

43:14.10

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

43:23.30

Julie O_Brien

But it can sure do a lot for the flavor profile you know and and the health.

43:27.83

syrupcoaching

For sure for sure. Yeah I think that's a great point and it's and it's and truly like the recipes that you're stating like sort of elevated dish that you know makes you feel you spend all this time chopping in and and and.

43:40.11

Julie O_Brien

Um, oh ice.

43:46.70

syrupcoaching

Cleaning it all up like it's there. You just like take it out of the jar and it's ready to go.

43:48.56

Julie O_Brien

Well, another thing is smoothie you know like if you just how many people make a smoothie I used to just do. You know my basic is a frozen banana. You know some kind of fruit that I have maybe a handful of frozen blueberries.

44:02.63

syrupcoaching

Move.

44:05.60

Julie O_Brien

And a little bit of yogurt right? You know that's kind of or some juice or whatever and then I was like yeah think about how many people have issues with dairy and they don't even know it or think about all the sugar. So if you take the yogurt out and you use some nut milk.

44:12.81

syrupcoaching

Yeah.

44:20.65

Julie O_Brien

In a scoop of sauerkraut typically the plane or the carrots. Now you're getting you know probiotics you're getting that sour flavor like you would from yogurt and then you're getting the creaminess from the nut milk and you know there's always you know? So then you've got all the sugars in.

44:23.70

syrupcoaching

Um, and with.

44:31.95

syrupcoaching

Um, okay yeah.

44:40.24

Julie O_Brien

The fruit so you don't need the other sugar that typically is loaded into a smoothie excuse into the yogurt.

44:44.45

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah, true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're just like going working around that that's awesome I Really like that. Yeah.

44:52.23

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah top and you can take Kalamata olives and blend it up with many many different flavors so equal parts of olives and crowd a little parsley and garlic. It's a phenomenal you changing the texture.

45:09.22

syrupcoaching

Grab.

45:10.88

Julie O_Brien

Is your best friend when you're trying to to get people who aren't into it to eat it. You know it's best to just not tell people sometimes and you know you can slide some into any sandwich any wrap any bowl you know? um.

45:15.28

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, yeah, um, reserve.

45:29.56

Julie O_Brien

And so so changing the texture blending it chopping. It is a really easy way to just incorporate it in.

45:31.36

syrupcoaching

You? Okay, this is so good. This is so so so good I mean now I'm start.

45:41.91

Julie O_Brien

We have if you go to our website. We have lots of recipes on there. We sell the book online. Um, we'll share these little recipe cards with you if you sign up for our little email news blast which we don't do anything but share with you.

45:44.70

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

45:58.99

Julie O_Brien

Every other week or we will Um, we share new recipes that we've come up with and you know one of my favorite little things to do too is like chop up some plain crowd with some basil some some cilantro and parsley and then you have all these flavors.

46:13.40

syrupcoaching

Review. Yeah.

46:17.14

Julie O_Brien

From you know all intensity from those herbs and then you throw the plain crowd in there and now you can just sprinkle it. You know it's like a little flavor. Bomb You know, full of fiber now in full of bugs. Good bugs.

46:25.58

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah, totally and then I mean that's like even that's a topping for you grill some steak or you have some short run or something you know like it's it's just an easy thing to add on. It's like. Health benefits are so like how can you not like I mean like it's like 1 of the things you once you know like how do you unnow.

46:49.69

Julie O_Brien

Yeah, yeah, well in one of the things that you know like we're up here in Seattle our kimchi on the beachers grilled cheese which is exciting where our Emerald City is that the climate pledge arena so you can get it on an impossible brat.

47:00.45

syrupcoaching

Um, who.

47:07.69

Julie O_Brien

And we are really trying to do more food service. So if any of your listeners anywhere. You know we we we do sell in bulk versions um around the northwest and we're trying to get a little further out but these foods should be in hospitals.

47:16.17

syrupcoaching

Um, okay, it's now too.

47:26.58

Julie O_Brien

In universities in old folks homes I was trying I was talking to ah ah my mother has Alzheimer's and um, she eats these foods now every day and it just helps keep her. You know they get blended up into her food.

47:26.81

syrupcoaching

Um, vision.

47:41.70

Julie O_Brien

But I'm like let's go think about how many people when they're aging struggle with constipation and if these carrots were just on the salad bar or you know these foods would be ripe to be mixed in and ah you know I talked to the Dietician at the place and she's like.

47:54.40

syrupcoaching

Okay.

48:00.00

Julie O_Brien

What about people who are autoimmune impaired and I'm like okay well what about all the sugar that you're serving every day there that is not good for people with autoimmune issues and what about the otherwise healthy people that are all there. How come how come you won't give them these foods.

48:07.34

syrupcoaching

Ah, yeah.

48:17.42

syrupcoaching

Right.

48:19.46

Julie O_Brien

You're just acting the the few sick ones from food that would probably really be helping them. You know.

48:23.36

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah, and I mean I don't want to get on another like far off end Jane here but I was listening to a podcast recently and and it was a doctor and both there's two Gs and.

48:38.95

Julie O_Brien

A poet.

48:42.36

syrupcoaching

And one was in the Uk one was in the us and the guy in the uk s like I'm actually on a mission to get better food at hospitals but not for the patients yet. But for the doctors. Yeah yeah, it's like you have no idea he was like I like I like had.

48:53.92

Julie O_Brien

Um, the doctors. Yeah yeah, well maybe a name. Ah.

49:00.32

syrupcoaching

Fast foods. That's all I could afford for so many years until I finally became a doctor and then now it's like how do I have this coke to Coca-cola to stay awake and coffee and you know it's not healthy doctors healthy.

49:06.31

Julie O_Brien

Um, this just yeah yeah, how could expect these doctors and nurses and all of these people who are trying to care for sick people. Um, if they don't even have access to these.

49:19.61

syrupcoaching

Um, but.

49:23.88

syrupcoaching

Are.

49:24.32

Julie O_Brien

Foods there I'm talking with the chef at harbor view which is our big you know, kind of trauma hospital here and I would love to to say I just said how about 1 salad offering in 1 sandwich and you know I have a whole vision of what I think could be offered but at the end of the day.

49:29.26

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah.

49:34.97

syrupcoaching

Where.

49:43.20

Julie O_Brien

A lot of these companies are so big and they're being run by people who are saying everything has to be pasteurized. We don't want to skin anybody getting sick. It needs to be available in ten Gallon buckets and it has to be you know delivered via this you know distribution company that you know.

49:46.96

syrupcoaching

Okay.

50:01.34

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, all the logistics and liability and you know.

50:02.65

Julie O_Brien

You know issues a lot of people that talk about you know local. We do local and women owned and plant based. But so many of those things are just almost created to look good. But then when you're one of those people saying hey I'm this person I'm making these.

50:16.00

syrupcoaching

Um, yeah, um, yeah, um.

50:22.71

Julie O_Brien

Is it's organic. We buy farm food. Um, it's it just doesn't it doesn't work for a number of different reasons but we have a lot of really great things happening and and there's a lot of good people who believe in this and so it's a matter of just.

50:27.66

syrupcoaching

With me. Yeah.

50:40.20

Julie O_Brien

Doing what we're doing continuing to share. Um 1 other thing so many people you know beyond being plant-based and probiotic and woman owned and all that you know these foods. There's so many people following you know a vegan a paleo a keto a whole 30

50:40.62

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah.

50:58.67

Julie O_Brien

Diet and this pretty versatile food because again, it's a vegetable. It's just like a biotic vegetables. Yeah.

50:58.91

syrupcoaching

Moved.

51:04.48

syrupcoaching

Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly exactly? Yeah yeah, it can it can it truly can fit any like in the very beginning anyone any age any size any condition. It is a food that everyone.

51:13.78

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah.

51:23.25

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah.

51:24.20

syrupcoaching

Should have and you're making it easy for them to do it and really really, really, really great tasting amazing product. So um I Love this? Yeah yeah.

51:28.80

Julie O_Brien

Um, really scared. They find us too on social media on you know we're Firefly Kitchen Seattle on Instagram and we're on Facebook and. We love we love sharing and I love if people want to reach out and say hey what would you suggest I do I love sundried tomatoes. How can I you know that kind of is fun for me I'm hoping to redo my cookbook fresh and fermented which is sold out I mean I think I have some copies I have. The the hopefully the last 50 copies. Um, but it would be I love it. There's so much good stuff in there and I kind of want to redo it and get some more new things that I've created because it's not Rocket Science it's just taking foods that we're already eating and co mingling them in different ways.

52:10.62

syrupcoaching

Okay.

52:18.58

Julie O_Brien

You know.

52:19.44

syrupcoaching

Awesome. It's absolutely awesome. Um I I cannot wait and when this episode airs. My digital course will be out and it does feature Julie's products guys because they're the fermented foods that i. Love and trust and cannot recommend enough. So yeah, well, ah Julie I have 1 last question for you. Um, this is a question I ask everybody if you had a buttons magic button with you at all times.

52:36.21

Julie O_Brien

Um, the.

52:48.72

syrupcoaching

And it could do 1 thing for you at all times. What would it do? yeah.

52:54.81

Julie O_Brien

It's such a great question and I would have to say relax me but you know because. I I kind of just start spinning sometimes with excitement and stress and it's and you know I think about the whole reason I'm trying to do this I'm making this food is because I want to share and I care and I want to help people but it's not an easy thing to do and then and then I'm like okay, but wait what about me what about my health and I think I can spend 30 minutes trying to meditate or trying to relax or you don't go run to to get my blood pressure down and calm down. So I feel like that button if it could just kind of ground me grounding is probably a little better word than relax because. Relax is so broad. But um, I'd say that's what I choose.

53:46.81

syrupcoaching

I I like that I could use that on a day like today a million things going on and just look like that force moment not 4 but it's not that's a wrong word. But.

53:49.55

Julie O_Brien

Um, yeah.

53:54.57

Julie O_Brien

Well, it's like you know as a mob. You've got three kids so we're sitting Here. We're present together. But I guarantee you there's some stuff going on in the back of your head like who's is somebody pawing at the door I need to pick somebody up or you need to drop. I did get a gift and it's you know I'm in my later fifty s and my kids are gone I'm not thinking about those things but the business has me you know, just always thinking and connecting and kind of calming those little those other little things that are firing is. Little challenging at times. But.

54:32.65

syrupcoaching

I a hundred percent 100% well Julie this was such a blast I will have all the links to your website and social media will include some recipes on the website and also in the Newsletter. So it's going out to absolutely everybody and then. Guys get on the fermented food train. You know? Yeah, if you haven't heard about it before you've heard about it now and Julie and fire flight kitchen is 1.

54:59.58

Julie O_Brien

Just yeah Google google the health benefits like don't listen to me like there's so many. Ah, really great articles out there. You know from Stanford and Harvard and and doctors and nutritionists and health coaches around and. I really encourage everybody to give it you know try making it It's so easy and there's a thousand tutorials out there on on how to make it at home. So thanks and okay, okay, tears.

55:28.29

syrupcoaching

Awesome! Ah, okay, thank you so much. Julie it was awesome to catch up to you. Bye.

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